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Warren County Conservation Council
Monthly Meeting of December 2, 2009
Meeting held at the American Legion in Lake George



Meeting called to order by President Butch Marcotte.  Members recited the Pledge of Allegiance prior to beginning the meeting.  Representatives from Lake Luzerne Conservation Rod & Gun Club, Johnsburg Fish & Game Club, Dunham’s Bay Fish & Game Club, Dog & Pup Fish & Game Club, Stony Creek Rod & Gun Club, Grey Fox Club, Lake George Fishing Alliance.  DEC Region Five ECO Bill Crain and Captain Lawrence DeDinato .  Thanks to everyone for attending and participating.

Rick is in Pennsylvania hunting, Dan Ladd will fill in as Secratary.

Treasurer’s report (Dave Porter)

ECO Bill Crain:

Old Business:

New Business

Meeting Adjourned: 8:25 p.m.

Howard won the 50/50

Respectfully submitted, Dan Ladd




 





Warren County Conservation Council
Monthly Meeting of November 4, 2009
Meeting held at the American Legion in Lake George

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Meeting called to order by President Butch Marcotte.  Members recited the Pledge of Allegiance prior to beginning the meeting.  Representatives from Lake Luzerne Conservation Rod & Gun Club, Johnsburg Fish & Game Club, Dunham’s Bay Fish & Game Club, Dog & Pup Fish & Game Club, Stony Creek Rod & Gun Club, Chestertown Hunting & Fishing Club, NY Whitetail Classic, Adirondackers For Access and Saratoga Conservation Council.  Lou Gerrain and George LaPoint, Region Five ECO Officers.  Emily Zollweg, Senior Aquatic Biologist DEC-Warrensburg.   Thanks to everyone for attending and participating. 

We were pleased to have Assemblywoman Teresa Sayward, Michael Miller, Sportsman Outreach Coordinator for the Assembly Minority Leader and Jason Kemper, member Conservation Fund Advisory Board, Region Five present. 


Treasurer’s report (Dave Porter)

Information and Reports 

ECO’s Gerrain and LaPoint started the reports and information session.  There was a brief overview of deer season, bear trapping and general big game hunting information.  There have been a number of complaints centering on baiting bears.  One of the arrests of a violator (fifth time offender) resulted in a $1300 dollar fine. 
Three moose have been killed-two by motor vehicles and one was shot.  DEC guestimates there are approximately 500 moose statewide.  There was a sighting in Queensbury recently.  
ECO’s have been getting some help from hunters.  A number of hunters have been reporting illegal activities.  Help police your support and turn in illegal activities.  Contact ECO’s through the Raybrook telephone number – 518-897-1326.  There is always an operator on duty. 
There is a great deal of food in the woods this year.  There are a lot of acorns, apples and nuts.  Hopefully this will help the winter build up of fat to keep the game healthy.
It is now possible to report your takes/kills by phone.  Check the bottom of your license for the telephone number and do report your kills.
Trapper license numbers are not on the license at present.  The number may be placed on the license in the future but for now it is a non issue. 
Nuisance trapping – beaver must be tagged.

Mike Miller, Sportsman Outreach Coordinator for the Assembly Leader covered the following topics:

The Assembly is hosting the first annual Sportsmen and Outdoor Recreation Legislative Awareness day in the Well of the Legislative Office Building on January 12, 2010 from 9:00 am to 1:00 pm.  All are invited to participate in the meeting.  The day will provide the opportunity to show “all” legislators the power of sportsmen/women.  Make plans to be in Albany for the day.  Council will plan to be at the gathering.  If you need a ride let us know.
Mike explained that our Assemblywoman, Teresa Sayward, was instrumental in getting the fourteen year old license passed last year.  Many downstate legislators need more contact from sportsmen/women explaining our benefits.  Down state legislators are hard on gun ownership and the shooting sports. 
Sportsmen/women need to contact our friends, family, relatives, etc. via all means to get them involved.  We need to work as a group to push our interests with all legislators, not just our own legislators, to make gains in legislation that helps our cause.  Case in point is the recent attempt by Albany to pass a city law/ordinance requiring people purchasing ammunition to register certain information.  The law was defeated when many individuals and groups lobbied and spoke against the law.
Mike stressed that surcharges on game violation laws need to go to the conservation fund and not the general fund!

Teresa Sayward, Assemblywoman, 113th District (Teresa’s family have been involved     with hunting, fishing, shooting sports and the outdoors for a long time)
    Teresa discussed many topics during her discussion with everyone.  The     following are some of the main points.

Teresa explained she spoke to many downstate legislators during the push to enact the 14 year old license.  She was able to gather support from downstate folks to keep the bill from meeting opposition and defeat.  Many downstate legislators did not know first time licensee’ completed a hunter safety program prior to being eligible to purchase a license.
Land access issues continue to go on in the Adirondacks.  The APA is the only government organization in the world to govern our land as it does. Teresa feels the APA is to controlling on land in the blue line. 
Legislation affecting hunting and fishing interests is a continual problem.  “We” must continue working to help our cause.
The new requirement stating people in small water craft must wear personal flotation devices was not picked up by sporting groups.  The bill was introduced by tourism and not EnCon so the bill did not surface through regular channels.  The intent is to reduce drowning by all users of smaller boats and kayaks.
Teresa explained she did propose a bill to institute a hiking fee for trail users.  DEC’s Commissioner said there was too much opposition to such a bill.
Teresa and other Legislators are proposing a Constitutional Convention to revise the State Constitution.  We need to change the way our legislative process operates.  When the issue is on the ballot please vote yes.
We need more hunter safety courses for those interested in participating in outdoor activities.  Perhaps the courses could be offered in schools?  It is difficult for all new participants to access a course.
Recently enacted license fee increases are only expected to cover operating costs for approximately three years. 
Teresa addressed a question concerning the attempt to create a wet land on the brook feeding Lake George.  She explained the Soil & Water District and DOT worked on the change.  She feels the change will be OK.
TNC and Finch easement lands.  Teresa feels the people are being blocked from using our lands.  APA controlled lands have shown a large population decline is hurting the State. She feels the anti’s/environmentalists want the land to be non inhabited.  They are a strong group.

Jason Kemper, Conservation Fund Advisory Board (CFAB) covered the following:

License monies go to the conservation fund for disbursement.  There was a discussion on the license fee increases.  Jason explained CFAB suggested there should be some licenses fee increase.  However, the adopted changes were made by the governor’s office without CFAB input.
The license numbers are down but total money is up due to sales of life time licenses. There have been 38-42 million dollars generated by sales.  Life time trapping, bowhunting, fishing and muzzleloading license numbers are up.
The annual CFAB report is on the web.  You can check it out by going to the DEC website and opening the CFAB site.
Fringe benefits for personnel paid by CFAB monies is up from 37% to 50%.
Rome hatchery is being updated.
Federal aid helps offset our NY income and keeps things going.
There are 2500 license issuing agents in the State.
If you would like to contact Jason you may reach him at his work number
 884-4705. 

Emily Zollweg, Senior Aquatic Biologist – DEC, Warrensburg

A ten day bait receipt is in the works.
Glen Lake rainbow will be legal-starts in 2010
Sea lamprey treatments are ongoing.
Yellow perch limit will be fifty in 2010.
Fisheries staffing is down 50%.

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Note: The Federation of Sportsmen’s Clubs of Sullivan County, Inc. will be sponsoring their third statewide 3-day coyote hunt contest on February 19, 20, & 21, 2010.  For registration entry forms and all rules of the hunt you may contact: Edna Calkin, Federation Secretary, Box 169, County Road 116, Cochecton, NY 12726 or call 845-932-8929.  For further information contact Jack Danchak, President at 570-798-2998 or Warren at 845-292-4807.


Motion to adjourn the meeting.  Second.  Carried.

Respectfully submitted,


Rick Haag, Secretary  



Warren County Conservation Council
Monthly Meeting of October 6, 2009
Meeting held at the American Legion in Lake George

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Meeting called to order by President Butch Marcotte.  Members recited the pledge of Allegiance prior to beginning the meeting.  Representatives from Lake Luzerne Conservation Rod & Gun Club, Johnsburg Fish & Game Club, Dunham’s Bay Fish & Game Club, Dog & Pup Fish & Game Club, Stony Creek Rod & Gun Club, Chestertown Hunting & Fishing Club, Grey Fox Club and New York Whitetail Classis were present.  Steve Stubbing, ECO attended representing the Lake George Park Commission.  Thanks to everyone for attending and participating. 

No minutes for September due to the Council holding its picnic and no official meeting was conducted.

Treasurer’s report (Dave Porter)

No treasurer’s report.   

Information and Reports 

Steve Stubbing answered and discussed questions and comments about bass tournaments and mortality.  The recent popularity of the larger organizations seeking and receiving permission to conduct tournaments on surrounding waters rasises concerns on the morality of fish caught and released during tournaments.  There have been reports of many fish released during tournaments dying when released back to the lakes.  Tournament organizers are taking steps to reduce the reported problem.  New catch, weigh and release practices are being instituted.  Members agreed the tournaments need oversight to protect our natural resources.
Steve explained that if someone needs an ECO to respond to violations they should call Raybrook if there is a problem contacting an officer.  You may call toll free for 24 hour law enforcement ECO dispatch at 1-877-457-5680.  Check page 56 in the 2009-2010  hunting  & trapping guide for names and phone numbers for Warren county ( as well as other counties) ECO’s.  Get involved and report violations to keep our sport alive and well.

Old Business

Council’s third recognition of National Hunting & Fishing Day was held at the Aviation Mall.  This year we were joined by Warren County Cooperative Conservation, (Jon Bowe) and their electronic shooting range.  Many parents and children and adults stopped to view our display to talk with members manning the display.  Thanks to all members for their time and dedication.


New Business 

Welcome to the Gray Fox Club, officers and members.  The Club joined the Council at our September meeting.  Looking forward to working with and for the Club.  Thanks you Gray Fox Club.

President Marcotte reported attending a program at the Luzerne library about coyotes.  The program was conducted by Gordon Batcheller, Biologist DEC - Albany.  If you are landowner having a problem with coyotes DEC will work with you to eliminate the problem.  It was reported the population is big and growing.  Gordon reported the eastern coyote will not breed with domestic dogs.  They require 4-20 square miles depending on the specific area.
Note: The Federation of Sportsmen’s Clubs of Sullivan County, Inc. will be sponsoring their third statewide 3-day coyote hunt contest on February 19, 20, & 21, 2010.  For registration entry forms and all rules of the hunt you may contact: Edna Calkin, Federation Secretary, Box 169, County Road 116, Cochecton, NY 12726 or call 845-932-8929.  For further information contact Jack Danchak, President at 570-798-2998 or Warren at 845-292-4807.

The NY State Assembly Minority Conference will hold its first annual Sportsmen and Outdoor Recreation Legislative Awareness day in the Well of the Legislative Office Building on January 12, 2010 from (9:00 am to 1:00 pm).  Council officers and members will participate in the activity.  Please let Butch or Rick know if you would like to travel to Albany for the activity.  We will carpool to the event.


Council received a letter from DEC regarding the pheasant program.  Comments will be sent reflecting our position.  If you would like to offer comments you may send them to:  HYPERLINK "mailto:fwwildlf@gw.dec.state.ny.us" fwwildlf@gw.dec.state.ny.us ( “pheasant plan” in the subject line) or by regular US mail to Michael Murphy, 81 Game Farm Road, Ithaca NY 14850.   Comments must be received by November 13, 2009.

Tony McCutcheon, Whitetail Classic explained those interested in registering for the big buck contest must do so through one of the eight businesses sponsoring the contest.  Tentative dates are March 6 or 13, 2010.  A wild game dinner will be available at the awards ceremony.

November Meeting

Our November 4 meeting will have Assemblywoman Teresa Sayward; Jason Kemper, Conservation Fund Advisory Board and Mike Miller, New York State Assembly attending.   Come to ask questions and hear information from State leaders.  Bring a friend.  We “need” to have numbers at the meeting in order to show Representatives we carry our message seriously.  Our November meeting is November 4 at the American Legion in Lake George, upstairs.  The Legion is located on Rote 9L.  Give me a call if you need directions.  Turn at the light at the new Rite Aid pharmacy across from Howard Johnson’s.  See you there!!

Motion to adjourn the meeting.  Second.  Carried.

Respectfully submitted,


Rick Haag, Secretary 


Warren County Conservation Council
Monthly Meeting of August 5, 2009
Meeting held at the American Legion in Lake George

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Meeting called to order by President Butch Marcotte.  Members recited the pledge of Allegiance prior to beginning the meeting.  Representatives from Lake Luzerne Conservation Rod & Gun Club, Johnsburg Fish & Game Club, Dunham’s Bay Fish & Game Club, Dog & Pup Fish & Game Club, Stony Creek Rod & Gun Club and New York Whitetail Classis were present.  There were no DEC personnel in attendance at the meeting. Thanks to everyone for attending and participating. 

Motion made to accept the July minutes.  Second. Carried.

Information and Reports 

There was a discussion concerning the recent newspaper article stating a trail system is being proposed off Meadow Brook Road near Halfway Brook.  Members decided to contact the County Parks and Recreation Department and Fish Hatchery administrator expressing Council’s support of the proposal.  We also will let them know we want to see a trail incorporated to connect the proposed trail to Halfway Brook for fishing access.  Dan Ladd will draft a letter.

Bill Eddy reported a milfoil problem in Lake Luzerne.  He would like to see treatment to eradicate the weed.

Howard Mosher reported the Saratoga County Council representatives informed him, at the Saratoga County Fair, that DEC will not continue producing their pamphlets and educational literature.  Deer and bear counts will not be done in print fashion due to budget constraints.  The Governor wants to cut paper and printing costs. 

Dan Ladd reported new licenses will go on sale starting August 17, 2009.  Dan reports that persons using boats smaller than 21 feet “shall” wear a type 2 PFD.  Studies indicate boats of this size account for most of the drownings in the State.  Check the migratory bird section of the Regulations for the new requirement.  Stay legal and stay SAFE!  Talk of antler restrictions in Washington County are just that. Nothing will change this year.  DEC will be conducting deer forums again this year.  There has been some talk about new sources of support for the County fish hatchery.  One suggestion is to place donation/collection boxes in areas, sporting goods stores, etc., where folks might drop in some spare change to help support the fisheries. 
Old Business     

    PICNIC  - Our picnic will be held Wednesday, September 2, 2009 at the Waterhouse Restaurant in Lake Luzerne.   This will take the place of our regular Wednesday meeting.  Cost of the picnic is $ 8.00 per person.  Plan to attend and bring/invite family and friends.  Traditional picnic fare will be served.  The picnic will be held rain or shine, since we have a covered area to use.  The time is 5:00 pm and you may let Dan Ladd know if you will be coming. We need advance numbers to plan for enough rations.  Contact Dan Ladd at 761-0447 or  HYPERLINK "mailto:buck@adkhunter.com" buck@adkhunter.com 
New Business 

It was reported Ted Galusha is camping in the Buttermilk-Hudson River Rec. Area.  No news of any problems. 

Howard handed out the latest issue of the New York Outdoor News.  It is a good source of news and information for those interested in the great outdoors. 

Howard reported seeing Tom Coe at Blue Mountain conducting a fly tying exhibit and show.  Great in depth presentation and chance for those attending to get some hands on experience in fly tying and fishing. Tom has a great deal of experience and information. 
 
WCCC is planning to do a National Hunting and Fishing exhibit again this year at the Aviation Mall. If you would like to help or have items that could be used at the show contact Rick Haag at 793-6527.   Thanks for your support.

Next meeting/picnic will be Wednesday, September 2, 2009 at 5:00 pm.  The picnic will be at the Waterhouse Restaurant in Lake Luzerne.  Cost is $ 8.00 per person.  Contact Dan Ladd at 761-0447 or  HYPERLINK "mailto:buck@adkhunter.com" buck@adkhunter.com  for reservations and to establish a head count.  Thanks.  See you then, bring a friend or two.

Dan won the 50-50 drawing again and donated it back to the Council.  Thanks Dan.

Motion to adjourn the meeting.  Second.  Carried.

Respectfully submitted,

Rick Haag, Secretary